Ah, Ukrainian women.
Lots have been written about them. Adjectives like feminine, traditional, graceful, and, of course, beautiful are typically thrown around.
And, after living here for more than seven years, I have to say that I must agree. They’re all that. They easily represent all those adjectives. But, like anything else, it’s not that simple, with femininity and beauty comes increased responsibility and other things. Dating Ukrainian women automatically exposes you to things that you may not be aware of.
But, still, it’s great to be single in a country with so many beautiful women running around. I honestly don’t know what I would do if I was married or in a serious relationship.
In all honesty, I couldn’t have picked a better place to be single if I tried.
Yep—I’m one lucky SOB.
In this article, I want to share with you my experiences, what I learned, and the general do’s and don’ts of dating some of the most beautiful, sexiest and feminine women that have graced this fine earth.
Ukrainian women characteristics
In the face of the rapidly Westernizing world, Ukrainian women are still relatively traditional. Now, of course, Western influences and Westernization is sweeping across the world and, unless you’ve been living in a cave for the past twenty years, you’ll discover that Ukrainian women are also watching shows like Sex And The City, take CrossFit classes and dream about Gucci bags.
Honestly, this surprised me at first, too. Just the other day, I discovered that the girl I’m currently dating loves watching shows such as Suits, Lucifer, and Orange Is The New Black. Plus a bunch of other shows I know about, but don’t watch. She’s from a small town in Ukraine and has never even been to America.
But that’s where the similarities between Ukrainian and Western women end. 99.9% of Ukrainian women absolutely want to get married and have kids. That’s unlike America where things like career easily take precedence over having marriage and kids.
In America, it’s perfectly normal to be a woman who’s 35 or 45 and not be married or have kids; there’s absolutely no stigma there.
In Ukraine, however, this would be considered weird or strange. Not long ago, Ukrainian women used to get married around the age of 25, nowadays, this occurs closer to the age of 30.
If a Ukrainian woman approaches the crucial age of 28-30 and still hasn’t gotten married (while most of her friends have), the outside pressure is so high that she starts to believe that something is wrong and her behavior will change accordingly.
For women in Ukraine, the rush is on to get married and have kids by the age of 30.
Where to meet Ukrainian women
Ukrainian women are easygoing and fairly receptive to be approached out and about so it’s usually not a problem to meet them out in public in places like the street, coffee shops, restaurants, stores, etc.
I’ve met lots of women in all of the above places so it’s not like one place is better than another. One thing I noticed is how relaxed they were when I approached them in places like coffee shops, restaurants or simply walking on the street. It was as though being approached by a random stranger was a routine part of their day.
One of my favorite online websites to meet Ukrainian women is Ukraine Date . Ukraine Date is a site where I’ve met a handful of amazing women that went on to become my girlfriends. I also know plenty of guys who met amazing Ukrainian women, and some even married them.
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Another option is to meet women online using the multitude of online dating sites and dating apps. The notable apps are Tinder, Badoo, Bumble and others.
Big cities vs small cities
Common sense dictates that people are generally friendlier and more approachable in smaller cities than huge metropolises. My experience has actually been the opposite.
I’ve actually found it much easier to meet women in the bigger cities than smaller ones. It was easier to meet and connect with women in a big city like Kiev than smaller 2nd/3rd tier cities like Lviv, Chernigov, Poltava, and even Dnipro or Odessa.
Most likely that’s because bigger cities are generally much more open and cosmopolitan not to mention that the inhabitants there aren’t just for the big city but have also immigrated from other parts of the country in search of better opportunities.
The ideal age range
When I initially moved to Ukraine, I went out with women of all age ranges, with most of these women being in their early 30s and even a few in the mid-30s.
I figured dating women closer to my age made sense since that would mean we’d have more things in common. (I’m in my 30s).
Eventually, I realized that something happens with a woman once she reaches the magical age of 30-32. By that age, chances are she’s had lots of experience with plenty of guys and, has consequently, experienced lots of rejections, a couple of failed long-term relationships, and maybe even a failed marriage or two.
As a result, a good portion of these 32+-year-old women become frustrated and jaded. They’re frustrated because they’ve reached an age where most of their friends are getting married and even having kids, but, yet, all they have to show for are a couple of failed relationships (or lots of failed flings with lots of random guys).
In Ukraine, women who are 32-years-old also tend to lose that “freshness” that is typically associated with younger women in their 20s. They lose that sparkle in their eyes and tend to blame their inability to find a good man onto the world.
Many women around the age of 31 or 32 who’re still single give up the search for more serious relationships and decide to let life just take its course.
Of course, having said that, I don’t remember ever meeting a single woman over 32 years old who wasn’t particularly frustrated as to why she couldn’t find a “good man” and get married.
In fact, my biggest dating and relationship frustrations were usually with women over the age of 32-33 (the older the woman, the greater the frustrations). So much so, that, after time, I stopped going after those older women altogether.
On the other side of the spectrum, there are the young women in their early 20s. I have several friends who don’t date women over 25. Personally, I’m not much of a fan of women that young; I find them too immature and don’t really have much in common with them. But if that’s your thing, then by all means, go for it.
The best age range to target—especially if you’re looking for a long-term relationship or marriage—is a woman in her late 20s, so someone who’s 27-29. A woman in this age range has had her share of fun and is now realizing that she’s getting older and is thinking about settling down and getting married.
Furthermore, if you’re interested in getting married and having children, it’s crucial to understand that a woman’s reproductive ability starts to gradually diminish starting with the age of 30; after the age of 35, her chances of getting pregnant decrease rapidly.
Obviously, if you’re younger than 30, you’re naturally going to be aiming for women in their 20s. But even if you’re under, say, 45, there’s also little reason to date women in their early-mid 30s and up unless that’s what you specifically want; aiming for women in their mid-to-late-20s is perfectly fine and culturally acceptable.
Dating Ukrainian Women
One of the most frequent questions we receive here at Ukraine Real is what’s it like dating Ukrainian women. A lot of our readers hail from the Western countries such as America, Canada, and the UK and are naturally curious about what’s dating like in Eastern Europe and, naturally, in countries like Ukraine.
Ukrainian dating culture
First of all, it’s important to understand that a lot of such dating is completely informal. A lot of women usually meet men through their social circles, and, therefore, dating typically doesn’t happen. A woman sees a guy in her social circle and, after meeting him often enough, enters a relationship with him. Maybe this happens over a period of several months or even over a period of several years.
As a foreigner who will arrive in the country without any social connections or contacts, your situation will naturally be different. You can’t rely on coworkers or friends to meet women, so you will have to seek them out yourself. For that, we highly recommend meeting women on Ukraine Date: see our review here . Naturally, this would mean you’ll have to go on dates with these women.
When it comes to dating Ukrainian women, there’s the typical 3-day rule that you may be already familiar with. This means you should be getting some action (sex) on the third date at the latest. If you’ve dated her three times and still didn’t get any action, there’s a very slim chance you’ll get action and you should cut her loose and stop all contact.
Thankfully, as a result of dating lots and lots of women, I developed a certain system when it comes to dating women. For the first date, I typically like to meet up at one of the Italian-style restaurants for a glass of wine or two.
There are some girls that don’t drink (or say they don’t drink), in that case, we just have some tea or coffee. I try to eat beforehand, so I don’t end up ordering food in a restaurant and letting the girl do the same. I don’t really like dates where eat and prefer dates where we can just have a few glasses of wine and enjoy ourselves.
For the second date, I may invite her to take a walk in the park or to check out another bar where they have really good cider. It really depends on the overall vibe and feeling that I have with this woman.
Typically, by the second date, you should have a pretty good idea whether this girl is into you or not. By this time, hopefully, you should’ve have gotten physical with the girl and also hopefully gotten a kiss or two. It would be quite strange to go on several dates with the girl and not even touch each other. If that’s the case, you may be dangerously inching closer to a friend’s zone.
After each date, you should be asking a girl back to your place. Although she may refuse to go back to your place after the first date, it shows that you view her in a sexual way and aren’t content with just going on innocent dates with and sipping some coffee.
For the third—and hopefully final date—I like to invite her back to my place. Typically what I like to do is suggest we buy a bottle of wine and head back to my place. A woman understands what this means and she would either agree to this or she wouldn’t. Usually, if she agreed to meet up on the third date, and you’ve already kissed before, that means she’s probably interested in you and having sex shouldn’t be that much of a big deal.
Out of all the women that I invited back to my place, whether it was the second or third date, I only remember one or two girls that didn’t want to have sex. You will absolutely have girls like this, so don’t be discouraged that’s just part of the game.
What to do on a date
As a foreigner, you will be subject to greater scrutiny by women than local guys. Ukrainian women know why you’re in the country—to fuck Ukrainian women. Thus, they’ll be aggressively screening for guys who are here just to have sex and bounce out. Obviously, they will be some women who just want to have fun and enjoy life, but if the woman you’re meeting is seeking some kind of relationship, her questions will be of different nature and she’ll be carefully evaluating your responses.
The most common question you will get is “What are you doing in this country?” You will receive this question from women who’re interested in more serious intentions. Obviously, don’t say something like, “I’m here to have sex with as many women as I want,” even if that’s what you’re doing.
Instead, make something up. Say that you’re taking a break from your life in the US or you’re just enjoying life, or you’re exploring the option of moving to a new country. Unless you have a job in Ukraine or some other official business, all of these answers are perfectly normal and show that you’re an adequate human who isn’t an “obvious” sex tourist.
Another type of question you might get is, “When and how long was your last relationship?” This is a type of question that a woman who is looking for a relationship would ask. Even if you’re not looking for a relationship, you should still hint that you would be willing to settle down with a quality woman anyway. In terms of answering this question, I would just say that my last relationship was one year ago and it lasted for one year or something like that.
After that, the woman might ask you why the relationship ended. She needs to understand if it was you or her that initiated the breakup. Typically, if you were in a long-term relationship and you initiated the breakup, the woman would want to know why that happened so the same doesn’t happen to her.
It’s important to keep in mind that a woman doesn’t ask questions out of the blue; every question that a woman asks serves a particular purpose. That’s her way of figuring out what kind of person you are, your value, and whether it will be someone she may want to build a relationship with.
The dating do’s and don’ts
Since Ukrainian women are fairly traditional, you must reprogram your behavior if you come from a predominantly Western country such as America, Canada, Australia, the UK, Western Europe, etc.
In the West (especially in the big coastal liberal cities), it’s very common for women to be more masculine and competitive, but in fairly traditional countries such as Ukraine, things work very differently.
For instance, the “ball-busting” attitude that works so well in Western countries and America will not work well in Ukraine. I can’t imagine a single Ukrainian woman that will respond well to the typical American “ballbusting” and posturing.
Instead, Ukrainian women respond better to what I call the “nice guy with an edge” game. That is, smooth and friendly—but still aggressive—seduction without the negative, jerk behavior.
I can’t count how many times I fell into the “ball-busting” trap and ended up killing all my chances with a particular woman. I also remember numerous times when I was acting like a jerk mainly because I was frustrated with her lack of interest and also believed that acting like an inconsiderate jerk would somehow improve my chances with her.
That worked pretty much zero percent of the time. Don’t make that mistake.
The dating game plan
I generally follow “three date rule” when dating Ukrainian women. Unlike in the US, where one-night-stands are fairly common, it’s fairly rare to sleep with a Ukrainian woman on a first date. This usually happens by the third date or so.
I’m also not a huge fan of “day dates.” I never invite or accept an invitation to getting coffee, lunch or walk around during the daytime. Instead, my preferred method for a first date is something like beer or wine at a restaurant, bar or lounge.
That’s because I want to send a message that I’m interested in her romantically and not looking for another “friend” with whom she can drink some coffee during her lunch hour. Meeting at a cozy restaurant or bar for a drink in the evening is a great way to do that.
Another great idea is to invite the girl back to your house to have some wine and enjoy a great meal. You have a cool pad in the center and know how to cook, right? I wouldn’t recommend it for an initial date or two but is super ideal for the third date or so.
I expect sex to happen on the 2nd or 3rd date. So, it’s a bad sign if things are dragging into the 4th or 5th date and the woman still refuses to come back to your place. Unless she has a very good reason, 99% of the time it means she’s not attracted to you in a sexual way.
I noticed that many of my best and most fulfilling relationships moved extremely fast right from the get-go. There was an instant attraction and we couldn’t get our hands off each other.
Dating red flags
If you’re courting a woman, it’s crucial to be aware of the common red flags. These are signs that a woman gives off when her interest in you is lukewarm at best.
Don’t pursue (or actively pursue) women who wait too long before replying to your messages or calls.
While I understand that people are busy and everyone is trying to do a million things at once, I don’t like to wait too long for responses from anyone. Call me impatient, but I typically don’t bother pursuing women who take hours to reply (or, worse, days). Obviously, that means she’s got more important things to do than to meet a new man.
Don’t do day dates.
The second red flag is when a woman suggests to meet up during the day (because she’s “busy” at night). As I wrote above, day dates are not ideal for a magnitude of reasons. I usually schedule my dates for 7-8pm, which is not too early but also not too late (in case she needs to wake up early the next day). So, if a woman categorically refuses to meet at around 7-8pm, I take it as a sign that she’s not too interested and has better options.
Don’t meet her on her terms.
Another red flag is when a woman is unwilling to meet up in a place you suggest (typically the center or a centralized neighborhood of the city).
I mostly rent apartments in the center of every city that I stay in. But because it’s fairly expensive to live in the center of any city, many locals can’t afford to have a pad in the center and, instead, live in more remote neighborhoods.
Naturally, I always propose to have a date in the center simply because there are more things to do; it’s the center after all.
Even if you’re not based in the center, you should still offer to meet there. The only exception is if you’re both located outside the center but live close to each other.
I’ve had women that were unwilling to go to the center and would say things like, “I’m too tired. Let’s meet in a coffee shop outside my house or in my neighborhood.” Her neighborhood would typically be 20-45 mins outside of the city center.
I also had women tell me, “At 7 pm, I would be in this shopping center,” as a response to my offer to meet up after work. Naturally, this shopping center would also not be in the center.
Many men would be tempted to drive out to her neighborhood, thinking that because they’re near her house, this means the date would somehow lead to an easy score. That’s a trap.
When a woman doesn’t want to meet in the center—where you propose and where all the action is—it means she’s not willing to put in the effort to see you, pure and simple. Move on.
Don’t pursue women who try to educate you on the role of the sexes.
One thing I noticed with older, 30+ women, is that they always seem to be “experts” on the man’s role and women’s role in a relationship.
It seems that most of these women have had so many failed relationships that they now spend their time voraciously reading self-help and relationship magazines written by other women in order to figure out what men want.
These include women who will recite you passages from books such as Men Are Mars; Women Are Venus and others.
These women think they’ve figured everything out except how to be happy. Avoid them.
Pass over women who meet the criteria above, and you’ll be less frustrated with women who want nothing to do with you and be one step closer to meeting the women who actually want to spend time with you.
How to deal with flaky Ukrainian women
Not all dates will go as smooth as I’ve described above. You will have plenty of experiences where women will outright flake, refuse to meet up, or change plans at the last possible second.
Let’s discuss flaking first. You will experience plenty of situations where a woman will agree to meet up and then will change her mind and decide to not come at all. Although I’ve never experienced outright flaking leading up the date, there had been plenty of women who confirmed a date that was several days away, but on the day of the date suddenly got busy with something else and couldn’t make it. Some of them suggested another day, while others didn’t.
Depending on the reason she gives for not showing up, I may allow reschedule for another day. However, if she fails to show up for the second time, then it’s definitely a red flag, and I probably won’t be seeing her again.
A more common type of situation occurs is when a woman agrees to show up on the first date, but then refuses to meet at your designated place and offers an alternative. Since I always suggest we meet up in some easily accessible place in the center (e.g., a park, a shopping mall, etc), any kind of push to meet up somewhere else, I take as a form of a power struggle, and I’m heavily against it.
For instance, let’s say I ask the girl to meet me in a popular shopping mall in the center of the city. But she refuses and instead offers to meet up in some other part of town. That right there tells me that either she’s lazy or she’s just not willing to put in the effort of meeting a new man in her life. Usually, it’s the second reason.
If the woman isn’t comfortable with making a 10-30 min trek to the center of the city to go on a date, that’s usually a sign that the woman will be hesitant to contribute to the relationship going forward. Although it’s not a 100% sure sign, it’s definitely something that turns me off. I don’t like to compromise a meetup spot and won’t tolerate it if a woman wants to meet way outside of town because it’s more convenient for her.
Ukrainian women – Relationships
How relationships work in Ukraine
In the West, you can be dating or living with a girl for many years without making it “official.” But in Ukraine, the end goal of all relationships is marriage and children. I have never met a single Ukrainian woman who didn’t want to get married or didn’t want to have children.
That’s why, for the most, relationships move fast in Ukraine. I’ve had situations where I would meet a girl and then a month later, she would almost move into my apartment, or I would be spending most nights at hers.
Unlike in the West, where you have to compete with a million other things for a woman’s time and attention, there’s never that “busy vibe” in Eastern Europe. A woman who likes you will always make herself available to you and not pretend to be busy because she has pilates in Wednesday or yoga on Friday.
One of my friends from Odessa, recently told me how he met a girl on the beach and proposed to her after only three weeks. They’re now happily married and are expecting their first child.
Another friend of mine met a girl on the street in downtown Kiev. After two weeks, she moved into his apartment. They were engaged two months later.
In Eastern Europe, people waste less time “dating” around. The end goal is always marriage and kids.
Relationship red flags
After dating lots and lots of Ukrainian women and having a handful of relationships (some serious), I now want to talk about some of the red flags in a relationship.
As a foreigner, the number one thing you need to concern yourself with is being with a woman who doesn’t really love you and genuinely enjoys your company, but is only using you as a gateway to a better life (ie, she wants to immigrate to your rich country—more on that below). Or she’s simply using you for money.
This is an insidiously difficult thing to notice because when a man is in love, he’s blind to everything else.
Avoid women who aren’t happy in Ukraine and want to immigrate to another country
As a foreigner, you will be a natural target for such women.
Many Ukrainian women believe that Western countries like America or England are exponentially better for having a quality life because in those places “money grows on trees” and great-paying jobs are everywhere.
Actually, this can’t be further from the truth. What they don’t know is that getting a nice job in a place like America requires demonstrable skills (ie, being a doctor or nurse), skills that they don’t have.
Second—and most importantly—if a woman isn’t happy in Ukraine and wants to move to America without a goal or objective (and a Fortune 500 company offering her a great job), there are deeper issues beneath the surface.
Who says she’ll be happy in America? Who says she won’t want to immigrate somewhere else after six months or a year?
It’s much better to meet a woman who’s already happy where she is right now and isn’t itching to pack up and move somewhere new. A woman who’s well-established in her country and city would make a better long-term partner than someone who’s constantly itching to move.
Avoid women who want to use you
I’ve dated women where all I did was take them out, bought them stuff, had sex every now and then, but still felt I was being used in some way.
Many times the girl was indifferent to me and mostly used me as a tool to enhance herself in one way or another.
A great way to see if your girl is really into you is to ask her to do something for you. It can be something as simple as calling a hotel to make a reservation where you’re about to stay on the weekend to something more complicated where she can help you by leveraging her professional connections or family.
If she won’t go out of her way to help you, it probably means she doesn’t really care about you and is only with you because of what you can do for her financially or because of your status.
Ukrainian women for marriage
While I’ve already talked about what’s it like marrying a Ukrainian woman, I want to briefly touch upon this topic here as well.
As mentioned above, the goal of all relationships is eventual marriage and children. Only the most naive of the naive men think they can simply “date” a Ukrainian woman for five or ten years without making any sort of commitment like you can with an American woman.
Ukrainian women are especially suitable for marriage. They’re traditional, family oriented and appreciate being in a committed relationship.
While Ukrainian culture isn’t as patriarchal and strict as the ones in some Muslim countries, A Ukrainian woman would never “disobey” her husband like the “independent” Western women. She will never tell you, “you don’t own me” or “who do you think you are.”
Once you marry a Ukrainian woman, you assume all the responsibility and the woman would respect your authority and follow your lead.
Having said that, it’s important to be aware of the common marriage scams that are associated with this part of the world.
There are a lot of scams happening in Ukraine. From the “fake policeman” scam who extort money from foreigners on the streets to various apartment scams, but nothing matches the “marriage scam” in heartache and financial loss.
I’ve personally received no less than ten emails from readers this year who were scammed by Ukrainian women into marrying them and then broke things off. They either met them on some online site or in person while they were visiting Ukraine. In retrospect, the scams are all exactly the same.
A foreigner (usually an American or Brit) either goes to Ukraine and meets the girl there or he meets here beforehand on one of the dating sites. They commence the relationship. After a while, they decide to get married (usually at the woman’s urging).
Once she reaches America’s shores, the woman’s mood changes. She begins to disrespect her new husband. They begin arguing more often. Eventually, she files for divorce. At this point, she most likely found a wealthier suitor to marry her so she’s able to remain in the country.
This actually happened to a Ukrainian friend of mine who is living in New York. He met a girl in Ukraine, kept in touch with her for a few years, got married, brought her over and then the trouble began.
They ended up getting divorced and she went back to her homeland.
Of course, I’m not saying that this will happen with every woman you meet. There are plenty of great women with whom you can have amazing relationships; I’ve had such relationships with many of them myself. But there are also many bad apples who are very skilled at manipulating guys to get what they want.
There’s a lot of hype on the Internet about Ukrainian women. Not a day passes that someone doesn’t praise them for “being the most beautiful women in the world.” Or the fact that they’re “the most feminine women” in the world. Others have also said they make the best wives because they’re so traditional.
All of that is true to some extent. Yes, they’re super beautiful. Yes, they’re amazingly feminine. Yes, they probably make great wives (I’m not married, so I can’t comment here).
But there’s a lot of little (or not so little) issues that go into that fine package that you may not have noticed or haven’t been aware.
6 Problems with Ukrainian women
It’s not all peaches and cream in Ukraine. While, for the most part, Ukrainian women are awesome, there are certain things you must be aware off.
Because I want to be honest with you, I don’t want to end this article without telling you about all the issues you may face on your quest to finding a great woman.
They are very materialistic
This is the biggest problem of all. Nowhere else have I met women that are materialistic as Ukrainian women. They’re more materialistic even than the women in Mexico, where I’m originally from. And, let me tell you, we have materialistic women over there.
They love pointing out what their friends got from their boyfriends. “Oh, Svetlana got a really nice necklace from Igor” or “Can you believe Irina has a new Channel bag courtesy of Vlad?”
They know all the expensive brands out there. They know Chanel. They know who has the latest iPhone. They know who’s driving the Toyota LandCruiser.
It’s all about status and it’s super important for the girl to have all the nice things to compete with other females.
They will also have no qualms about guilting you into buying them something expensive. Believe me, when I tell you, they have lots of psychological tools in their arsenal.
They will tell you that one of her friend’s boyfriend got his woman something expensive. They will tell you that one of their girlfriend’s boyfriend bought her the latest iPhone.
If you refuse, they will also say things like, “You don’t think I deserve it?” or “Should I ask someone else to buy it for me?”
I can tell you that if you don’t buy it for her, and she really wants something, she’ll find someone else to buy it for her. It’s an automatic given.
They can be extremely jealous
I remember when I was seeing this one girl. We’ve been seeing each other for only a few weeks. One day, she was over my house. I didn’t take the relationship super seriously, so I set up another date for the evening because I knew this girl would be going home soon.
I went to take a shower and left my phone on the table. When I got out, the girl was super upset. After prying out the reason, apparently, she unlocked my phone and saw all my messages. (I still don’t know how she unlocked my phone but maybe she knew my phone’s pin code).
In any case, she was super pissed and was about to leave. I stopped her and explained it was my ex who was in town and needed closure. Of course, that was a lie, but I needed to say something. She finally calmed down and ended up staying.
Something similar happened with few of my other girlfriends. While they didn’t go through my phone, they were super suspicious of my nighttime activities, constantly testing me to see if I had other girls on the side.
They care about their appearance a little too much
If you come to Ukraine, you must be blind to not notice this phenomenon: women always posing and photographing each other. It’s everywhere. At the beaches. At the clubs. At the coffee shops. At the restaurants. Everywhere.
Obviously, this has its cons and pros. On one hand, it’s great. It’s nice when women care about appearance so much that they always make sure they’re dressed to the nines everywhere they go. This sure isn’t the case in America.
On the other hand, it means, it takes almost forever for women to get ready. It also means spending tons of money on expensive clothes. It means being uncompromising when it comes to looking your absolute best at any cost.
I also met women in their late 20s/early 30s who already did various procedures like botox in order, as they put it, “offset the effects of aging.”
After all, we’re talking about a country (along with Russia and maybe Belarus) where women “pump up” their lips to make them more filling, something that I don’t I’ve seen anywhere else.
They have extremely poor finance and planning skills
Ukraine is a country where a woman who’s making around $200/mo will have no problems saving up all that money and buying a $1,000 iPhone while having absolutely no money left over for anything else.
I’ve met women who had zero savings because they spend their paychecks on stuff like clothes, bags every month. Fortunately, they don’t need to pay rent because they’re either living with their parents or because their parents owned the apartment which got passed onto to them.
If you ask me, I think it’s pretty crazy to buy a $1,000 iPhone when you’re only making $200-300 per month. Common sense would dictate buying a cheaper phone while working yourself to a higher salary.
But, then, again, what do I know?
They consider your money to be their money and their money to be also their money
So, the unwritten rule when it comes to finances in Ukraine is that the money the husband or boyfriend makes can be used by both parties. But, the money that the woman makes can only be used by the woman. That’s the money that she can use for her pet projects.
Obviously, that leads to some poor decision making it removes any motivation for the woman to make any money in the first place and forces the man to make a ton of money. That’s Ukraine for you.
They will have no problems dumping you for a richer, more successful man
So, what would happen if you have a hot girlfriend but one day you come home depressed because you were demoted or lost your job altogether?
She might console you—but only temporarily. Thing is, Ukrainian women aren’t used to moving down in status. If they have a standard of living. And that standard of living allows them to buy nice things, go to nice restaurants with their girlfriends, and have a great life.
Well, how do you think she would feel if she suddenly weren’t able to do that? You really think she’s going to be perfectly fine with that?
Of course not. While she may seem understanding on the surface. Trust me: your relationship’s days are limited. Unless you can get back on your feet quickly, she will be entertaining other suitors.
Ukrainian women dating foreigners
“Do Ukrainian Women Like American/Western Men” is one of the most common questions that foreigners who wish to travel to Ukraine ask. In this article, I will talk about the pros and cons of being a foreigner in Ukraine and what kind of women you can expect to attract.
Around the world, being a foreigner can either be a blessing or a curse. When it comes to the more conservative countries (e.g., Balkans, Serbia, Macedonia, Montenegro), being a foreigner is not that much of an advantage. In those countries, women typically prefer their own men and aren’t really impressed by foreigners.
On the other hand, Eastern Europe is widely known to be the region of the world where women, for the most part, really like foreign guys. In countries such as Russia and Ukraine, it’s very common for foreigners to land and immediately find themselves a cute girl to hang out with.
This is especially true with the whole Ukrainian and Russian mail-order brides phenomenon where you could’ve essentially order a woman over the Internet. Although that’s no longer the case these days, there are a ton of different dating and marriage agencies all over Russia and Ukraine where a foreign man can find himself a wife.
This is a purely Russian or Ukrainian phenomenon; after all, there’s no such thing as Brazilian mail order brides or Danish mail order brides.
I remember when I was in Odessa in the summer of 2011, a girl told me that most of the cafes were filled with groups of three people: a foreign man, his Ukrainian girlfriend and a translator who translated every word between English and Russian.
I heard that back in the 1990s after the collapse of the Soviet Union, the economic situation was so dire that a foreigner could simply fly in, buy a girl a Big Mac at some McDonald’s and get a blowjob (or more). I don’t know if that’s actually true or not, but I’m pretty sure the real situation on the ground was probably somewhat similar.
The fact remains: if you have money, you will be somewhat successful in Ukraine, although whether you get the girl you actually want is another story altogether.
The real deal
Allow me to share my experience. I have dated lots and lots of women, and, to be completely honest with you, I’m not sure if any of the women I’ve dated actually dated foreigners. Moreover, out of all the women that I’ve dated only a few had serious aspirations about moving abroad, America or some other country.
One girl was around 32-33 years old and wanted to leave Ukraine for greener pastures abroad. She was the quintessential example of a girl who worked at a regular bank job, wasn’t much promoted, wasn’t much appreciated. She wanted to try something new abroad. While I’m not sure she was looking for a foreign man, I’m sure if one fell onto her lap, she would roll with it.
The second girl that I’ve dated was younger, at around 26-27 years old. She was pretty successful at her job but wanted to visit the US (San Francisco) to see what it was like. She told me she was interested in visiting it first and then possibly relocating there, but she hadn’t yet made up her mind and wasn’t sure, but she was definitely open to the possibility.
All the other girls were pretty standard Ukrainian girls who, as far as I’m aware, didn’t have much contact with foreigners.
OK, so, do Ukrainian women love foreigners or not?
It seems like we’ve talked about a lot of things, but we haven’t really answered the question of whether Ukrainian women really like foreign men. The answer is that it depends.
Unlike some of the more conservative countries where women tend to stick with their own kind, Eastern European women are generally open to foreign guys. In my view, there are various reasons for this:
- Eastern European men aren’t as romantic and chivalrous to their women as Latin American, Southern European and even American men.
- Eastern European men aren’t as good looking as Latin and Southern European men.
- Eastern European don’t take care of their women as much as Western and Latin men.
- Eastern Europe is an overall poorer region than Western Europe and America and, thus, people (and that includes women) want to build a better life for themselves.
- Eastern European women are more hypergamous than other women. Since women date and marry up (and men typically date and marry down), women want to have the best opportunity for themselves and their offsprings. And that means going to places that provide more opportunities for having a good life and spending time where the richer men are.
Right now, Eastern Europe is one of the few spots in the world (except maybe Southeast Asia and countries like the Philippines) where a Western man can go and the women would be open to having a relationship with him.
This is certainly not the case in countries like Italy, Serbia, Spain, and Brazil, where women, for the most part, like to build relationships with their own men.
Eastern European women travel to nearby countries (e.g., Turkey, Egypt, Israel) and earn exceedingly good amounts of money doing questionable things. Even as far away as in America, newly arrived Eastern European women have a reputation for making money using specific ways (escorts, prostitutes).
A friend of mine lives in Brooklyn, NY, where there are a lot of immigrants from these countries. Not only are there are Eastern Europeans who have lived in the region for many years, but there are also newly arrived young Eastern European women. He told me that in his apartment building, there is a van that comes by in the afternoon and picks up a bunch of young Eastern European women and drives them to some location. Obviously, one can only guess where they’re being driven to.
Out of all the women that I’ve dealt with, Eastern European are some of the most hypergamous out there. They will stop at nothing to improve the quality of life for themselves and their offsprings. They are survivors.
Ukrainian women are awesome. I honestly don’t think I’ve been in another country which had as many beautiful women as in Ukraine. Not only that but their traditional background also makes them excellent wife material.
Nevertheless, I would be lying if I finished this guide without mentioning the negatives. First of all, there’s a noticeable transactional element when it comes to your relationship with your Ukrainian girlfriend.
It’s a given that she’ll never whip out her wallet for anything. There’s no such thing as “going Dutch” or splitting the bill. If she’s with you, she expects you to pay.
Most of the women I met are also overly materialistic and status-seeking. I’ve known women who spent all their life savings on a new $900 iPhone—when they lived on the outskirts of the city in a rundown neighborhood and were making just $200/month.
I’ve also known women who would have zero financial accountability and would blow their entire paychecks on expensive clothes and bags. All knowing that they had zero savings in the bank.
Buying gifts (some expensive) are also fairly common. So, your girlfriend might get pretty pissed off at you if you fly back home to New York City, London or Los Angeles and return without a new iPhone or trendy (and not cheap) pair of shoes.
This is obviously a far cry from a typical Western woman who would never beg you to buy her an iPhone or a Victoria Secret lingerie.
Looking back at my serial dating lifestyle, one thing I regret the most was not ruthlessly filtering women that I knew right away weren’t really into me, or I wasn’t really into them.
Thanks to a plethora of online dating apps, Instagram, and even unlimited opportunities to meet women out in the wild, you can meet lots and lots of women and then have the luxury to filter out the ones you want.
Sometimes you don’t know what’s going on but feel something is off. Maybe you feel that a woman is trying to use or play you, or maybe she’s fantastic but you’re not crazy about her. The solution is to let her ago and keep looking. There are plenty more fish where that came from. Don’t waste your time on “maybe’s.”
Nowadays, I don’t have a problem killing a date in mid-sentence if I feel it’s going to be a waste of time.
For more inspiration, see the following articles:
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- Ukrainian Women For Marriage: Everything You Need To Know
- Ukraine Date Review: The Best Online Dating Site In Ukraine
- Ukrainian Girls: Dating Guide
- Overstay In Ukraine: What To Do If You’ve Overstayed Your Visa